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Consumer reviews about Black Box Firm |
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Elisa2332
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Mar 5, 2012
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Rip Off Scam
These guys Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are sleazy con artists... They ran companies like Millennium Marketing and Cyber Innovations, Mad Cow Productions, Level11 Mentoring. They are not content to rip off clients, they rip off everyone around them... read more here...http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-801-312-1100/6
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Greg Hart 123
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Mar 8, 2012
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Rip Off Scam
I was about to sign up for this. They told me I would make tons of money online with their websites that they make. Then I got smart and looked online. I see this website and others telling me that these guys are a scam, always change their name but always rip people off. They change their company names all the time so to start new scams. I also look at their website... it is so bad, and they want to make me a good website? They cannot even do this themselves!
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BBGreat_Income
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Mar 16, 2012
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Rip Off Scam
WATCH OUT! This is a new company run by Aaron Christner (who seems to hiding out by using the alias Vince Scapuzzi now). He and his friends Ryan Jenson and Colin have set up this new scam to steal your money and give you out dated and poor quality software.
Their new scam works like this- they get you to want to put new material on your blog every day to increase traffic. This aint a bad idea. But because they are lazy, and figure you are too, they want to sell you a bot that steals other peoples posts on their blog and pot it on yours. The only problem is this is that this is plagiarism. And, strangely enough, Google can figure this out ins a new york second. You do not get more traffic, you GET BANNED BY GOOGLE for stealing. But Aaron gets your money! It is just Ryan and Aaron trying to rip off unsuspecting victims again! Oh, but what about that incredible library of useful tips to help you build your wevite traffic? Its all free stuff you can find by using goole and a little work on your own... not worth a penny, much less waht Aaron and Ryan charge!
What do I mean again? It is simple- Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are career Internet criminals. They rip off the naive, the unsuspecting, anyone they can. They are Internet con men of the lowest order. I got ripped off by them years ago, back when they were running Mad Cow. Now I try and go around and warn others when they start a new business…. which it looks like they are doing again now with keeping it fresh. Last year it wqs The Black Box Firm, a rip off scam where they sold people overpriced web sites. They are the crooks behind the aforementioned Mad Cow Productions… as well as Cyber Innovations which was shut down by the State of Utah, and Level11 Mentoring, which was so bad that Aaron and Ryan had to pay HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in restitution for their victims.
Don’t believe me? Look up Aaron Christner or Ryan Jensen on the Internet. Or their new aliases Vince Scapuzzi and Ari Schwimer… and think about why they would be changing their names all the time if they were not slimey as sin. Google some of their old companies. You will see that everything they touch is crooked, slimey and they lie to everyone about everything.
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hot and steamy
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Jul 19, 2012
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rip off black box
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AngelaB
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Aug 13, 2012
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Black Box Firm Dishonest Lying Crooks!
I signed a contract dated 1/30/2012 with the Black Box Firm, after putting up $5000 for assistance in developing a website and mentoring me as an affiliate marketer. My initial contact with a man by the name of Patrick Jackson. I had two mentors--Rachel Rogers and Lindsay Ford, both have gone missing in action. After purchasing a domain and obtaining a tax ID #, which I provided this company, I have not been able to reach anyone at the number I was provided. In fact, when I dial the number, all I get is a rapid busy signal. I put up this money that I didn't have with the hope of being able to get some type of income by working from home, as I fractured my neck and cannot work at this time. I've been ripped off. This evening I received an email from the Black Box Firm apologizing for not being in touch. They provided a link to my website, but the server is not responding. The telephone number answers but all I get is music. There is no human being on the other end. How can I get this resolved? I have not heard from anyone since the end of April.
AngelaB
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MSweetwater11
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Aug 21, 2012
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You Will Never See Your Money Again Angela
Sorry Angela, but you are out of luck. Once Black Box Firm / Accomplish Learning get your money, they buy pot with it and smoke out. So- quite literally- your money is up in smoke. But you are not alone- there are a LOT of us these two have scammed...
Lets see what has happened here... Rachel quit in January. She was not paid for two weeks work. She took Aaron and Ryan to the Labor Commission... and she won. Aaron and Ryan have not paid here yet. Surprised?
Lindsay has done well- she has a new job with a REAL SEO company. She saw the writing on the wall and split in, what, April I think.
Want to know what is up with all the busy signals? That would be Ryan Jensen and Aaron Christner not paying their phone bills. Perhaps you know them by their aliases Vince Scarpuzzi and Ari Schwimmer. I will post a couple pictures of these two winners that are smoking out on your dime... you might want to see the faces of the scumbags that ripped you off. Those are mug shots, btw- both these two have been to jail! In any case, they stopped paying all their bills, and their phones all got closed down (among other things!)
All these problems should give you some indication about what kind of telemarketing business Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen run. I mean seriously- you you REALLY want to learn how to run a business from people who have been fined repeatedly bu the State of Utah Consumer products Division? They have had their telemarketing license REVOKED... and they are still telemarketing.
So let's talk about what you paid 5K for.... You are paying somewhere between 30-60 a month for hosting, right? Search "Wordpress Hosting"- you can easily get the same thing for less than 10 a month... and probably get a better connection to your site! What did you pay for your site itself- 2-3K, right? You could have done this yourself, with a little bit of work... or paid a legit wordpress site builder for a basic site (all BBF really does) for 1-2 hundred dollars. Are you paying 50/month for a supplier or fulfillment of your store? That should be a one-time charge, if charged at all- it should be INCLUDED with your site! I bet there are a lot of things you are bring charged for that you aren't getting. Check your contract versus what you are getting. If your website is not up, you should not be paying for that.
Do a charge back for all the things you are paying for and not getting. Do not pay for anything additional. Cancel any and all recurring charges.
So, you are up against professional scammers. You are probably not going to recover anything because these two don't have anything- they smoke and drink up every dime they get as soon as they get it. SO, unfortunately, just be ready to write what you have already paid.
But you can do what a bunch of us are doing now- get REVENGE!
How? Publicize your story. More and more victims of Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are telling their stories on the Internet- join the chorus! Post to every web site about scammers and rip off artists you can! Some victims have even started their own website! CHeck out (and contribute to!):
http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/
So we can prevent future scam victims! Don't let up, and don't be silent!
You can also file a complaint at the Utah BBB at:
http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-reviews/work-at-home-companies/the-black-box-firm-in-salt-lake-city-ut-22312728
If you REALLY do want to get back at these guys, report it to State of Utah, Utah Division of Consumer Protection at 801-530-6601 or 1-800-721-SAFE. Ask for Adam Watson. They are building a case against these two, and any and all help and documentation they get will help close these scammers down for good!
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Felicia Clark
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Aug 21, 2012
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Make 100-300$ per day working with Google...
just as Phyllis implied I'm blown away that a single mom can profit $9423 in one month on the computer. have you read this site link http://bit.ly/O27xtp (Click "Home" on the menu bar)
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