Smart Circle-Direct TV-Sams Club |
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Consumer reviews about Smart Circle-Direct TV-Sams Club |
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Mr Bad Example
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Dec 28, 2011
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Scam Artist
The original complaint is accurate. The entire Value proposition is based upon misrepresentation all the way from Smart Circle to the individual local LLC's.
For the record, NO ONE in my office pulls down $1, 000 per week selling pies and cosmetics in Sam's Club & some have been around as managers for several years. so you've completely misrepresented yourself. Truth is I made and sold more then your owner will as long ago as 1989. The training isn't training it's indoctrination. If I wanted to join a cult there are several well known ones. Couple rules of thumb for the college grads considering joining Smart Circle.
1. If they don't offer a Salary, it's not a long term career, it's a parking lot until you get a "real" job.
2.Why work 70 hours a week for $40K when you can work 50 hours for $50K?
3. Why work for a company that doesn't pick up a portion of your health insurance?
4. Why work weekends?
5. Why work for a company that if you decide to leave only gives you marketable skills for more low pay retail sales.
6. Why pick a company that has at best a questionable reputation versus a Merchant Services or Copier Company? If you can successfully sell those products or services you are very very marketable as companies selling more complex products and services actively seek out top performers in those industries.Remember the more complex and longer the selling cycle the more $$$$ for you. Think about it for a minute. Which is more complex? Selling a $9 pie or a 2 million dollar 60 month services contract? My comp was 8% of revenue year one of the above or put another way, 4, 440 pies a month, 20 pies an hour every hour.
BTW I have no college degree. Given the above, still wanna work for them?
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badangl699
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Feb 6, 2012
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Scam Artist
Only one problem you don't know you are working for Smart Circle until later down the road. They don't always inform you. I was not informed I found out because I complained about something to a Smart Circle rep. And she told my boss. If it weren't for that I would have NEVER known I worked for Smart Circle. I thought I was just selling DirecTV
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badangl699
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Feb 6, 2012
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Scam Artist
And Chris I will tell you my manager... whose name was also Chris, did not teach me one iota of knowledge other than product knowledge. I walked out of there knowing exactly how DirecTV charges you... that is all! He kept firing people for lack of sales, yet when he would work with me he never had anything bad to say about my selling abilities. In fact he had the opposite to say.
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anthonydavis
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Mar 31, 2012
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Scam Artist
This report is an attempt to help others not make the mistakes I made when working for a mother company called Smart Circle. As I sit here and wish that I had went to Rip Off Report myself before investing nearly a year of my life to the company, I hope all who read this will do better for their families and themselves.
A brief history: Smart Circle is a mother company that hires independant company distributers (ICDs) to do its labor. To become an ICD for Smart Circle many sugar coated steps must be taken. They implement a four phase management training program that is designed to remove 98% of people from being successful. The first phase they will claim is a training phase and prove yourself phase. Phase two will set up the employee to teach and train new employees (no extra money, just doing the work the owner does not want to do).
This is then followed by the mythical third phase. In the third phase you will be promised an office training scenario where you will be taught to run an office and manage others. I call this phase mythical because in the time I spent in this system I never once heard of an employee being in the third phase (this is because they set the requirements to reach it at a ridiculous level. This is because they promise more money which they do not want to pay). The fourth phase is becomming an ICD or branch manager yourself.
Now that we have the system explained in its simplist format, let me explain where my concerns come into play. This business is extremely ugly when you see the things that happen behind the scenes. I spent my time making their high-roller lists and getting to the ICD level inside of six months. I, like all others, managed to skip the third phase and go straight to the owner level. I was not trained on how to run an office (which I was fine with). I was, however, left to run an office for another owner for months before I was allowed to put it in my own company name. Thus, you will now be working 70+ hours and making less than you did as a rep in the field. In fact, I was told that I could only pay myself $200-$300/week regardless of working 70+ hours.
The fact of the matter is that even if your company makes a decent profit every week, you will pay out a lot of it to others that actually have their hand in the program. You will pay money out to nearly a dozen others that want your money. Thus, you need to continue making eight sales a week which now pays you $1, 600 before expenses. Now let's take $600 of that for business expenses. Let's now remove another $800 to pay the reps that need to be brought up to minimum wage. This will leave you$200 to provide for your family. I am sure someone will write a rebutal saying hire better reps. When in fact this is not the best idea. You will hire more reps and put them in training which you must also pay for. This can take three weeks before a rep will catch on and start making you money. In the meantime you will loose another thousand.
A promise was made to me that I could request minimum wage support and that I would not have to pay anything back. I thought this was an awesome way to help get my business going in the green. So, I jumped on board and hired a bunch of people to train. Knowing that I would not have to pay anything back I was willing to give a few people a shot. Once I was an owner for two months the lies I was told started to unfold. Minimum wage support sent me a bill for $5k. I had money saved into my business and they wanted it. After spending 70+ hours/week I was ready to explode when I was told the solution is to work more hours to pay off the debt.
When I explained that I could not raise a family for $300/week I was shut down by Mark Kasik. This is after I was talked out of my education (college), my house (bankcruptcy), my car, my retirement money from my engineering job previously worked, and even a portion of my pride. The truth is, they had now taken me for all I was worth and I had nothing left to give. The dream was over and the sugar coated opportunity had finally shown that it was nothing but a dog doughnut with powdered sugar, sprinkles, and a cherry on top.
I could rant on this business all day long, but in the end it is simple. Do Not eat the dognut.
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English Ian
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Mar 31, 2012
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Scam Artist
a man was found dead in a pile of cherries... police said he must have topped himself!
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previous owner
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Apr 5, 2012
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Scam Artist
look guys i was a previous owner, i worked with the comany for almost three years. Im telling you right now. YOU WILL NOT MAKE MONEY.
If your on the page you have eiether figured that out or your thinking about how much of a scam this could be.
If your here your have way out of the brainwash your under right now.
If your a owner and your here. You must have some doubts. I found myself here a few times as a owner. Chances are your brainwashed and its not changing.
Well if anybody here has any questions on anyting regarding smart circle feel free to ask.
You want to know why your not making money. Ill explain on how this is how it is designed.
Or how most of your expenses are paid to smart circle affiliates, book keepers, accountants, insurance, payroll. Your just giving them more money
If you have any questions on how things really go. Or how a customer can fix things
Just ask. I speak the truth and i speak from experience.
I have all of my bank statements and reports to prove the numbers.
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